Doubting Thomas and supporting Kalainjar:Implications of the "mythical Thomas movie"
08/07/2008 14:19:27  VEDAPRAKASH





"Before and after July 3" – the day of Feast of Thomas!


: Tamil people, our "Udan pirappugal" (brothers born with us) and "Rattathin rattam" (the blood of blood i.e, dearest of dearest) may not be knowing as to why our Kalainjar accepted to inaugurate the movie on July 3. But now news is coming that it was the day of Feast of Thomas which was liked by Karunanidhi, as he hates only panchangam and not almanac. That is why he changed the "New year" for Tamils, but he would adhere to their "panchangam"! So after prayer and speeches of others, Kalainjar was so moved to declare that "God has accepted him"! As Deccan Chronicle[1] reports:"Donning the believer"s mantle, the normally atheist chief minister said, "Whether I am accepted by God is more important than whether I accept God. I have to help humanity for being accepted by God. The audience applauded when he said this statement, which he had also made in the presence of Sai Baba last year."



Really, the "miracle of


Casper


" works! He is above God, so Jesus has to accept him and he / He would recommend Jehovah to accept!



















Kalanjar, the historian propounds new hypothesis


: He has not only become an official inagurator of the "mythical Thomas movie", but also donned the role of "doubting Thomas historiographer"!"The chief minister said the martyrdom of


St. Thomas


had inspired him in many ways. Drawing a parallel to King Pari of the Sangam age, who was also killed by the conspiracy of several kings, he said, "History remembers those who were killed by conspirators.St. Thomas was also a victim of conspiracy." Mr Karunanidhi launched the film by operating the movie camera." The express reported of saying, "…history chose who to highlight, and


St. Thomas


was one such a noble soul. "We remember the man who was murdered.


St. Thomas


, but not the one who killed. History shows who is to be remembered", he announced!



The confession that he was influenced by the "martyrdom" of "mythical Thomas" has been revealing! While "Pari Magalir" suffered a lot, the apocryphal Thomas too made many women suffer. Good historiography in deed, as he has shown the way to read Apocrypha to know more about the myths of Christianity, Christ, Mary, Mary Magdalene etc. The killer, conspiracy, martyr, etc., are interesting and Indians have to respond for such utterances. Particularly, the historians of all the so-called TNHC, SIHC, IHC etc., should come out.











Thus, Ishwar sharan[2] asks pertinently as follows:"The Roman Catholic bishops in




India






owe Hindus an abject apology and crores in reparations for the Church"s crimes in






India






over the centuries, not a mega movie of a fictitious Apostle of






India






. But if they insist on the Rs 30 crore movie, are they going to tell the public the following facts about Judas Didymus Thomas as recorded in the Acts of Thomas that:






















* Thomas was the look-alike twin brother of Jesus; (i.e, one more son to Mary?)






















* Jesus sold Thomas as a slave for thirty pieces of silver; (slavery practiced, therefore no humanity, equality etc) 






















* Thomas deceived the kings of






Parthia-






"






India






" who gave him respect and hospitality; (mythical thomas was a deceit, cheat and fraud)






















* Thomas was a thief; (no explanation is required, as Acts of Thomas says)






















* Thomas abducted and locked-up women; (abductor of women, womanizer)






















* Thomas engaged in various forms of black magic (sorcerer, exorcist competing with Jesus); and






















* Thomas was executed by a Zoroastrian king who had initially shown him mercy and asked him to repent of his crimes and leave the country.


" (but created all nonsense)











As Kalainjar has donned the role of "Thomas historiographer" or "the super hagiographer", he would suitably reply covering the points raised. Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy and chief researcher and scriptwriter of the film may learn a lot from the Kalainjar! 



















Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy, "the Church researcher



"

: He is an ordained minister of the Catholic Church and is a priest of the archdiocese of



Madras-Mylapore

,

India


. He has doctoral degrees in the fields of Theology and Sociology and three doctorates earned from various foreign universities spending one year in libraries across the world to find the existing literature on


St. Thomas


. A Gold Medallist of the


Madras




University


, he has also conducted doctoral research in the Educational Sciences. He is the author of the trilogy: Meditations on the Forty Names of Jesus, The Forty Parables of Jesus and The Forty Miracles of Jesus [3]. As the director of the venture, he clearly pointed out that the movie is being sponsored by the


Madras


archdiocese, with

Vatican

support, on a comparatively modest budget of $12 million. So Indians are fools to expect that such a with many multi-degree, multi-doctorate, multi-lingual genius should know the Arulappa-Acharya Paul, etc.



















Like S. Rajamanickam S.J, R. Daniel Jayakumar questions theology


: Though, Chinnappa has been trying to hush up the theological difference, Rev. Dr. R. Daniel Jayakumar of Kondu, Cuddalore, points out, "…….questions on certain gray areas like celibacy and vegetarianism still need convincing answers", though Lurdusamy atnticipated that thomas' encounter with the "reported animal and human sacrifice in the Chennai of first century" may create some controversy once the film is ready for release in 2010. Drawing reference to Deivanayagam, he notes that, "About three decades ago Dr M. Deivanayagam, a doctorate from




Madras












University






and an authority on Tamil and early Christianity in






India






raised the pertinent question whether Tiruvalluvar was a Christian or not. Based on his thorough analysis of the biblical truths and profound wisdom found in the Thirukkural he concluded that he was


." Kamatchi Srinivasan [6] and Arunai Vaivelu Mudaliar[7] have already exposed the hollowness in such interpretation.  



















Vegetarianism, Celibacy etc., do not bother Christians


: Christians like Buddhists have been eating flesh and they are not strict "vegetarians" and therefore, it is a myth that Christianity is against "animal sacrifice" and so on. Moreover, the fundamental "Eucharist" exposes such myth, as a true Christian believes that the bread and wine are turning into the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ that would cleanse his / her sins. Arnold Toyanbee, Will Durant and other world great historians have pointed out that this "Eucharist" belief has been remnants of "cannibalism" or tribes, later converted into ritualization. Biblical references have been plenty to prove how the Christian heroes and heroines or gods and goddesses eat meat of all varieties. As for as celibacy is concerned, again Christians have no proof to that effect. As here, they depend upon apocryphal bibles, Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene lived together raised children (Grail legends may be referred to). The "Thomas myth" was developed only as a duplicate of "Jesus myth" as pointed out by many western historians and scholars (as pointed out by Ishwar Sharan above).  The International Institute for Tamil studies that published the book of Deivanayagam disowned and declared his work as "not based on research".



















"St. Thomas Apostle of 






India






Trust" produces "mythical Thomas" film


: The film is to be produced in the name of "St. Thomas Apostle of India Trust" which has Archbishop A. M. Chinnappa, Deputy Archbishop Lawrence Pius, Treasurer of the diocese Mr. Ernest Paul and Dr. Paulraj as office-bearers. Of course, the


Vatican


would fund has been already accepted. Thus, it is clear that the


Vatican


tries hi-tech extravagancy for harvesting, as they have found out how the Indians have been addicted to movies. The next attempt would be depicting all apostles playing cricket with Jesus Christ as an umpire and Mary, Mary Magdalene and others watching from the stadium!  The "Trust" formed shows to escape from all legal wrangles as happened in the case of Arulappa vs Acharya Paul and thus, the money given would not be subjected to any controversy!



















"Kalainjar was blessed with success" film


: The Holy Spirit had descended on that day and blessed Kalanjar for victory in elections! Chief Minister M.Karunanidhi has asserted that the DMK-led alliance would sweep the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in the state. "Mr Peter Alphonse wished me success in the ensuing Lok Sabha polls. His wishes will come true". So Kalainjar knows that elections are coming and Peter knows that his wish would be fulfilled! 





















We"ll Sweep Polls: CM






Courtesy:




Deccan





Chronicle








3 July 2008











CHENNAI July 3: Chief Minister M. Karunanidhi has asserted that the DMK-led alliance would sweep the forthcoming Lok Sabha elections in the state.  "Mr Peter Alphonse wished me success in the ensuing Lok Sabha polls. His wishes will come true," he said while speaking at the launch of the film St.Thomas here on Thursday.  "I am proud of being referred to as the head of a `minority" government as my government has always toiled for the welfare and well-being of the minorities," said Mr Karunanidhi.
















It is pre-ordained and the chosen people would get what they want. He can only give what they want and in turn, they can only give what he wants! However, all may not tell always what they received every time!



















Archbishop, Vatican, funds, script, studio etc., resemble the past events


: Archbishop Chinnappa, Vatican support for the project, the same research, the same theme, but only evidences differ, as times have changed.













V     

Now, there are no manuscripts, though studios are there;  













V     

script is there, but no writing letters;  













V     

no photography of manuscripts manufactured in studio, as cameras would come out and shoot;  













V     

instead of going to


Vatican


, the


Vatican


itself supports the project:













V     

Indian Cardinal Ivan Dias, Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of the Propagation of Faith, supports the project along with the bishops in Tamil Nadu, media said quoting Archbishop Chinnappa; thus, there is no Retzinger, of course, now he is the Pope;  













V     

now the inaugural or symbolic shooter has been "Kalainjar". Thus, the whole events make one remember the past events. That is why Dr. R. Daniel Jayakumar of Kondu, Cuddalore subtly questioned the theology drawing attention to the work done by Deivanayagam three decades back.Yes, now we do not have any K. P. Sunil to bring out his account in "The Illustrated weekly of India", as we do not know where K. P. Sunil is and the journal died already! Ironically, Arulappa and Acharya Paul – the main actors have also not with us. Now, they cannot pressurize through Fr. Mariadas of Sri Villiputhur, as "Dr. Paulraj Lourdusamy, "the Church researcher" is there with many degrees and three doctorates! And he would take care of!!



















Would Ganesh Iyer alias John Ganesh alias Acharya Paul would get resurrected to question them on the Day of Judgement before 2010?


Next to Sivadhama[8] and Ganapathy Upadhyaya[9], Ganesh Iyer has been the most or worst oppressed, suppressed, harassed and exploited human-being by the Church. He was given the money to fabricate and manufacture evidences to prove the fraudulent research of "Arulappa " Deivanayagam" research of bringing mythical Thomas beyond Mesopotamia, down south to Madras, making him to meet Tiruvalluvar, Tiruvalluvar getting knowledge from Thomas and started writing Tirukkural, later te Saiva Siddhatis were enlightened by the Holy Spirit and becoming Siddhatis and so on!So now, the picture is completed:









Hollywood

stars are coming;









superstars are engaged;









Ajith, Salini are contacted;









Perhaps Namita, Sakila would follow, as the film is in all languages and there are many songs!












So what Ganesh Iyer alias John Ganesh alias Acharya Paul would do, if he is resurrected according to the principles of Christianity? As an exorcist anyone - Chinnappa or Paulraj or Kalainjar himself in his new role of master of "martyriology, hagiography etc" would do it!



















No conversion motive – another big lie from Chinnappa


: Dr A.N. Chinnappa of Archdiocese of Madras-Mylapore declared that "It is not an attempt to convert people to our faith but to convey the message of this great saint". If that is the case, the crores or million of dollar money could be straight away given to the "poor Christians" or the so-called "Dalit Christians" instead venturing into this type extravaganza, because, the amount would benefit them immediately. Moreover, the Church has already promised houses etc., for the Tsunami victims and the work is pending. Already Madras High Court has passed strictures against Seventh Day Adventists for building poor quality houses. Thus, under the circumstances, these learned and dive representatives could think about those poor souls also.Thus, they are having some hidden agenda as otherwise, he need not say that "It is not an attempt to convert people to our faith but to convey the message of this great saint". Thus, naturally, other Indians, secular Indians etc., have to be concerned about the movie and its implications.



















Why already proven fraudulent myth is selected for the movie theme


?: It has already been pointed out many times that unimaginable fraud has been committed in the name of "doubting Thomas", "mythical Thomas", "apocryphal Thomas" etc. About the legal wrangle of "Acharya Paul-Arulappa", the details came in the press in 1980s. Arulappa had to save his face by havig a "compromise settlement" with his agent Acharya Paul. Therefore, the repetition of such theme would amount to perpetuating the fraud. So all the connecting people, personalities and experts would be treated as aiding and abetting the fraud and treated accordingly. So suppressing the facts or talking advantage of short memory of public or proceedings as that "it is only a story and not history" as T. Dayananda Francis[10] had done it in the case of "Thomas vanthar" – dance drama held in Krishna Gana Sabha. Therefore, the responsible Indians should take note of the frauds repeated in the different guises, as the theme has been the same.



















Would Tiruvalluvar be crucified?


The Church would not faithfully record in the film all the frauds committed that have been on the official records; it is going to be partial rehashing the myth with meaningless and basesless imaginary hypotheses; of course, it could pressurise or purchase scholars, historians, politicians etc., with promotion, foreign travel, donation etc., but the truth remains. as they have enough time, it is better think carefully, before they proceed and produce. Already, they watered enough for the media to thrive on such fantacies –














ƒ 

if Rajini dons Tiruvalluvar, who would be Vasuki –















ƒ 

yes, Kushubu or Namita would be and they would be dancing with vulgar dress.















ƒ 

So through Rajini or Kalainjar if they want to crucify Tiruvalluvar, let them crucify!












The whole world knows the sin of the Church, massacres of Crusaders, blood split by the holy wars; whether Indians know or not the Goa Inquisition would be remembered. The millions of slaves exported out of India would be remembered; lakhs of Indian women tortured on the fields in Malaya, Mauritius and South africa would be remembered; lakhs of Indian childred orphaned, because of the above and died and killed would be remembered.



Now Kalainjar would be known. We do not know whether Tiruvalluvar would ressurect and curse or Vasuki. He (Kalainjar) has asserted earlier that as he has / had three wives, he would understand women better. So let us see, whether he would understand Vasuki.











VEDAPRAKASH




07-07-2008


















[1]






The news item published under the caption, "We"ll Sweep Polls: CM," Courtesy: Deccan Chronicle 3 July 2008





[2]










Ishwar Sharan has been the author of "The Myth of St. Thomas and Mylapore Shiva temple", and the entire book and other details can be accessed from:






www.hamsa.org















[3]
























http://www.llumina.com/store/fortynamesofjesus.htm



















[4]



















S. Rajamanickam in a paper presented in a Tirukkural conference, he refuted Deivanayagam's hypothesis that Tirukkural was a Christian book, Tiruvalluvar Christian etc. It s published in the "Conference Malar" editor by N. Subbu Reddy.



















[5]



















Courtesy:








Deccan









Chronicle
















4 July 2008







 



















[6]



















Kamatchi Srinivasan of








Madurai
















Kamaraj
















University








has also extensively refuted his baseless interpretation questioning his understanding of Tirukkural etc in 1979 itself.








Kamatchi Viswanathan already brought out a book "Trukkuralum Viviliyamum" criticizing Deivanayagam in 1979 itself. She has recorded:








"M. Deivanayagam and the others who belonged to him (the group) give meanings to many couplets in such a way that they have been totally different from that of other commentators"








[1]














……………………."A doubt arises after reading the books of M. Deivanayagam as to not only whether he has understood the Tirukkural properly, but alsoto what extent he has leaerned about the Christian religious history"








[2]














……………"Dr. S. Rajamanickam S. J, another Christian Tamil scholar in his paper, "Tirukkuralil Christtavam" has refuted the works of M. Deivanayagam."








[3]














































[1]















Matchi Srinivasan, Kural Kurum samayam, Tirukkural Chair Publication No. 7,






Madurai












Kamaraj












University






,






Madurai






– 625 021, 1979, p.215.












[2]











Ibid, p.216.








[3]







Ibid, p.217.N. Subbu Reddiyar (Ed.), Tirukkural Karuttharangam Malar, 1974, pp.87-92.








[7]







Again, in 1987, the senior Tamil scholar and Saiva Siddhanta exponent Sri. Arunai Vadivelu Mudaliar has exposed Deivanayagam on many accounts – lack of Tamil language, grammar, syntax, understanding, interpretation etc. in his book, Viviliyam-Tirukkural-Saiva Siddhantam-Maruppu Nul (Bible, Tirukkural, Saiva Siddhanta – A Refutation) published by Mayiladurai Adhinam.








[8]







Roberto de Nobili "raped" him like anything getting all wok done though him.








[9]







Bathalomeo Ziegenbalg had done it with Ganapathy Upadhyaya.








[10]







I went to Krishna Gana Sabha on that day (in 1989 immediately after the publication of my book. as I sent copies to all including him, he must have chosen the Krishna Gana Sabha), T. Dayananda Francis allowed me to watch the drama and during the interval, he announced that it was only a drama for entertainment and not based on any history or authentic.



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AG
08/07/2008 22:47:41
About the Thomas Canard

As long as the BJP top brass in Tamilnadu only thinks of election aliances and popularity stunts, there is no chance for the goodness to survive in Tamilnadu.

I would not be surprised if the BJP leaders of tamilnadu were to felicitate the movie.

The hindutva movement has no clue of the plans and executions of abrahamic aggressions.

They only protest when there is a chance for popular stunts, like Rama sethu. Protests such as this are important, but more important arena left out carelessly is that for fighting out the ground level conspiracies. 5
Muthu
08/07/2008 19:48:00
Translate this novel into all Indian Langauges

Richard Zimler's novel

Guardian of the Dawn

Last question by Tara Sahgal to Richard Zimler below abstracted
Read the whole interview in tehelka , a bit surprising from tehelka to publish this. Truth is indivisible says the Upanishads.

http://www.tehelka.com/story_main38.asp?filename=hub120408death_colonial.asp


What would you like Indian readers to take away from Guardian?



I wrote this book as my vengeance against the power-hungry Catholic priests who tortured and murdered Indians under their rule, who almost succeeded in wiping out all traces of Hinduism from Goa. We should never forget that they made a fortune since they confiscated all the property belonging to the converted Hindu and Jewish prisoners. When I see the golden candlesticks in Catholic churches, I try to remember that all that wealth was made, in part, by murdering Indians in Goa. What I find horrible is that the Portuguese still speak of Goa as if it was the exotic, friendly capital of the spice trade. I also find it unforgivable that the Catholic missionary who petitioned the Pope and Portuguese king to impose the Inquistion on Goa, Francis Xavier, was later canonised. As far as I know, he’s still the patron saint of Catholic missionaries. Sainthood for a man who made it possible for the priests of Goa to torture and burn former Hindus up to 1812? Excuse me for being
blunt, but I find it disgusting"


and read this also , old interview
http://www.rediff.in/cms/print.jsp?docpath=//news/2005/sep/14inter1.htm 5
Muthu
08/07/2008 17:31:29
Compete with fraud
The movie refereed is Thiruvilyadal. This film should made into 70 mm and digitised to be released on the same day with the film announced by Karunanidhi and company.

They should announced the day of release first and this movie should be redigitised to 70 mm released on the same day. I am 100 % sure this will be great hit. It will be befitting reply to fraud.

http://www.rediff.com/movies/2008/jul/08look2.htm

Excellent suggestion by Gajanan Mohite

I lived in TN for some time , a few yrs. The politics of TN is unique compared to the rest of India. Only AP has shades of cinema cum politics interwined.

I remember in the 60's and 7o;s there were mythological claasics starring Sivaji Ganesh and others were superhits. I could not enjoy them then, but I used to take a Tamil friend who acted as an interpreter. Yes , even with the semblance of the Tamil being understood , I found these mythologicals very interesting and well presented. One film Danveer Karna was dubbed in Hindi and it ran very well in North India. One was always thinking why these films have not been expanded into 70 mm and redigitised for the whole Indian audience again. It can be dubbed into several languages. It has an all India appeal. This was discuused by many in our group several times.

Now seeing this annoucement , which was made several days ago, there has been discussion about this in all the Tamil circles.

The question is why does not somebody expand all the mythologicals of the 60's and 70's into 70 mm and digitise it and give a new look and rerelease it with this film sponsored by the Karunanidhi and company. One cannot remember the names , but the one in which Shivaji Ganesh acts as Lord Shiva would be the best competitor to be released on the same day with this film. No funding reqd . No external agencies required . Good luck and compete with this film to succeed. May the force be with redigitising. Many have like this idea.

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