Tippu Exposed
29/10/2011 01:38:54  


Tipu Sultan 1



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joy
06/12/2011 09:14:20
Tippu was never a freedom fighter
Tippu was not an Indian and he inherited Hyderali, who was a soldier from Iran and later became a ruler due to the failure of the then chieftains and rulers. He tried to defended his territory from the British.
Both were invaders in one sense or other and both had their own foreign interests either business or religion.Tippu could have been treated as a freedom fighter had he respected local culture. Tippu also played politics with poor Hindus by protecting and giving financial support to certain temples and destroying a lot of temples and engaging in mass forcible conversions or conversion by undue influence. His respect for our culture should be read from his deeds. Had he respected our culture ,he could not have done any thing like this. Alexander who invaded India and defeated Porus treated him like a king and he respected our culture because he represented ancient Greek culture.

Shame to treat Tippu as a freedom fighter simply because he fought the British.
He was to the treated like the Portuguese.
If there were no British the local people would have fought Tippu like in north many groups fought the Moguls and Sultans who were also invaders.
How could some one invaded first become a freedom fighter if they fought the second or third invaders. Invaders are invaders whether they were first or second or third. All decoits ,thiefs or any criminal has a good side also and that never makes any such person a good person.
Had the British did not come here Tippu would have turned the southern part of this country as a Taliban state.
British were better than Tippu on any account.
KKR
03/11/2011 05:52:30
Need more impartial research.
Tippu might have used religion as a tool to create terror in the minds of Hindus whom he invaded in Malabar. Or this could be the added effect his strong belief in islam and fanaticism of some of his commanders who lead the army towards Malabar. What I have read from the book written by Dasharathi is that, Tippu had many superstitions. Some of his courtiers who were Hindus wisely used astrology to convince him to spare temples in his kingdom (to avoid misfortune to him).

But an impartial research is required to find out the facts. Another possibility could be that this guy became indoctrinated to become a Jihadi over a period of time, like we have few 'national' leaders who became anti nationals after the pampering by Nehru and company. Or some betrayal by some of Hindu subjects would have infuriated that guy to attack Hindus with a revenge mentality. Whatever it is, there are enough evidences that Tippu himself had ordered destruction of temples, massacres and mass conversions of Hindus of Malabar. And also mysteriously he has spared few temples in Karnataka.
Need more impartial research.
KKR
03/11/2011 01:49:27
Need more impartial research.
Tippu might have used religion as a tool to create terror in the minds of Hindus whom he invaded in Malabar. Or this could be the added effect his strong belief in islam and fanaticism of some of his commanders who lead the army towards Malabar. What I have read from the book written by Dasharathi is that, Tippu had many superstitions. Some of his courtiers who were Hindus wisely used astrology to convince him to spare temples in his kingdom (to avoid misfortune to him).

But an impartial research is required to find out the facts. Another possibility could be that this guy became indoctrinated to become a Jihadi over a period of time, like we have few 'national' leaders who became anti nationals after the pampering by Nehru and company. Or some betrayal by some of Hindu subjects would have infuriated that guy to attack Hindus with a revenge mentality. Whatever it is, there are enough evidences that Tippu himself had ordered destruction of temples, massacres and mass conversions of Hindus of Malabar. And also mysteriously he has spared few temples in Karnataka.
Need more impartial research.
proudestkafir
02/11/2011 06:41:10
Knowledge of Arabic gets you better job in Arabia?
What a load of crap! I had no knowledge of Arabic and I am a hindu and still the Arabs wanted me to work for them in their country and I had the services of an egyptian coptic who used to help me translate for me.Gradually I loearnt enough arabic to read and write.Knowing arabic is a disadvantage! I gues you have never left the kerala malabar area!
Riyan
01/11/2011 06:34:52
Tipu Effect in malabar
I totally agree with Sankar.P. Because if tipu helped malabar muslims, malabar muslim might have prosper before 1951. but the fact is before 1951 malabar muslims also in poor condition. after the 1951 first chief minister EMS gave land via Land Amendment act. due to this malbar muslim utilised the pilgrimage experience (pilgrimage to Macca for hajj) and knowledge of arabic to get a better job in gulf. therfore malabar muslim have prospered. like that avarage SC/ST class malabar hindus are in better condition than other state
Ravi
01/11/2011 04:36:34
Freedom.........
After reaching the agreement for transfer of power to Indian rulers (which the congress described as freedom), the British left India. Then stared honoring the people whom British jailed for taking part in struggle against them. It slowly became honoring all those who were jailed, which includes perhaps, pick pockets, thieves rapists. Violating any rule during British raj became freedom struggle.
Tippu Sultan is glorified because he has fought against British and was killed by them. What others think about him is irrelevant to vote bank politics.
proudestkafir
30/10/2011 22:37:45
DO the asinine hindus need enemies at all
How are you connecting gulf boom that happened in 1972 to Tippu who lived 300 years ago? I am quite surprised at your argument.Are you saying that if Tippu was not there 250 years ago, gulf boom would not have happened and the arabs would not have employed keralites? How do you know about an average kARNATAKA HINDU being inferior to malabar moslem? The malabar moslems are involved in smuggling killing and other criminal activities and so are rich! You are a brain washed keralite hindu and please stay in kerala.The rest of india does not need your absolute ignorance!
Sankar.P
30/10/2011 10:31:38
The Tipu Effect-Some Benefits Too?
Tipu Sultan may well have been a tyrant who committed untold atrocities against the Namboodiris, Nairs and other communities of Kerala. However, this has to be seen against the good which he has unwittingly done.

Due to the Gulf boom, many Keralites, including Malabar Muslims, Hindus and Christians have prospered. The financial situation of Malabar Muslims are, at present vastly better than the Muslims in Karnataka ( their 'converters'), many of whom live in lower middle class or poor conditions. The average Malabar Muslim is also much better of financially than the average Malabar Hindu. This is, of course, due to the Gulf connection. The average Malabar Muslim is also much better off financially than the average Karnataka Hindu.

Thus, in hindsight, it has to be said that Tipu's atrocities have not been an altogether bad chapter in Kerala's history!
Riyan
29/10/2011 10:04:42
about tipu's monument
I am not history student and not a wide reader, afterall I visited Palaghat fort and palace of mysore, after reading this, I have a doubt, before falling of tipu mysore balace was in his custody, if he was a fanatic muslim ruler, why did'nt destroy the temple inside the palce? and why did hyder ali build a temple inside the palaghat fort? and one more thing, Tipu was a ruler of mysore not a Islamic leader, Muslims doesnot accept him as a islamic leader he was just a ruler of mysore,like vodayar and others, but he fought against brittish while vodayar gave his assistace to british
Ravindranath
29/10/2011 03:54:06
more references
Well researched book from http://voi.org/books/tipu/ titled "Tipu Sultan Villian or Hero"
proudestkafir
29/10/2011 03:26:17
tippu drop?
the tippu drop in karnataka is a well known place near bangalore. Lots of idiotic hindus visit the place for fun.The story,obviously distorted history of the cheating historians of the ilk of pannikar,sgopal etc is that the enemies were thrown down the drop and killed.The real truthful history is that people were briught to the place and were offered qran and if they accepted islam they were saved and if they did not they were recovered from the bottom of the drop of around 600 meters! Idiotic hindus are not even aware of the truth.A country that forgets it's history is destined to repeat the same mistake. That is what worries me as I see the asinine hindus crawling up to lick the back side of moslems and dead jew followers.
I knew the tippu rascals history about 25 years ago and refused to visit any of monuments built in the name of that monster called tippu bugger. The history the school children read is so full of lies and distortions,my blood boils when I see the history books the children read.Moslems and christians and communists are heros and asinine hindus and the rest are zeros.What type of future generation are we preparing? A generation that has no self respect, no confidence and is ignorant about it's own country and achievements? What a tragedy for bharathmata
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