Sri Muniyandi: The 1 M who beat the 4 M
10/02/2011 14:22:27  S V Badri

In Mathematics, 1 M is always less than 4 M. But when the M on the left side of the equation is a superhero of a Hindu jati dharma, it can beat any multiples of the M on the right side of the equation. Such is the power of jati dharma.

The 1 M in the present instance is Muniyandi, grama devata of the Telugu Velama Naidus, their village deity. The vanquished 4 M are Missionary, Mullah, Marxist and Macaulay-putras (the secular born-Hindu Hindu-hating elites that are the cause of so many of our current woes as a society and as a nation).

Sri Muniyandi Swamy’s kshetra spans 53 villages in a district in Tamil Nadu. And so powerful is the deity’s presence in the hearts of his devotees that entire families, parents, children, et al, come annually to pay obeisance. Thus, when every nerve of Bharat is stretched taut by the challenges posed by the 4 M, which have disproportionate resources at their command, the dharma of a small jati inhibits them from having a presence in 53 villages near Madurai. By any standards this is a unique achievement, but in Dravidian country, it is simply staggering. Clearly the answer to Missionary FDI in Bharat is Faith Determines India (FDI).

Ramesh Naidu, whom I have known for close to thirty years, used to report to me in a large chemical company where I last worked. I took voluntary retirement to serve the Hindu cause, and Ramesh Naidu left a year later to start a small hotel at Velachery, Chennai. I didn’t know why he made this switch, but during a subsequent interaction, I learnt about his village and his hotel, which belongs to the largest chain of hotels owned by members of one jati dharma in the world - the Madurai Sri Muniyandi Vilas Chain of Hotels, founded by members of the Telugu-speaking Velama Naidu jati.

And that was a revelation about the inherent strength of our jati dharma.

It all started in Vadakampatti, a sleepy, rain-fed, almost barren village 15 kms before Virudunagar and 35 five kms from Madurai. With no rains and depleting livelihoods, they found sustenance difficult and most of the people migrated to Madurai and elsewhere. However, Subba Naidu had a strange attachment to his village, married into the most affluent family of the village, and was good at only one thing: dreaming.

1 M = Muniyandi Swami – The Origin



Sri Muniyandi Swami, grama devata, is the ishta devata (beloved, personal deity) of 53 villages across the Madurai-Virudunagar highway. The Telugu Velama Naidus are the predominant jati in Vadakampatti village. In 1935, Subba Naidu knew nothing about the power of this grama devata. His family’s kula devata (clan deity) was the presiding deity of the Sri Vaishnava Mandir, Sri Azhagar Swami of Madurai, who is worshipped as the elder brother of Madurai’s own Sri Meenakshi Amman.

Subba Naidu began to have dreams of a man who came in his dreams and vanished before he could realize who He was. He suspected it was Muniyandi, the Protector his mother always spoke about in his childhood. Muniyandi was playing games with him, disappearing each time he opened his eyes. His time was spent either eating or dreaming on the steps of the pond where there was no temple. Having married into a wealthy family, he became indolent, but pressure at home mounted as his mother-in-law chided him to make his life fruitful. After one intolerable argument, he sought solace in his favorite vocation - dreaming - on the steps of the village pond.

That night, Muniyandi came in his dreams. Absolute black and resplendent in all His glory, and in a gruff voice commanded. “Subba, tomorrow morning you will see a white horse. Follow it where it leads you, and stop where it stops, to start your first eatery. I shall be there not only to protect you, but also those who follow you into this profession. But you will remember to provide Annadanam (food without cost) to those in need without fail”.

Subba Naidu woke up with a start. Astonishingly, he found a Muniyandi Vigraha on the banks of the pond he often loitered around. He set up the Vigraha, performed the few pujas he knew, and took his wife and mother-in-law into confidence regarding the Divine encounter. Then, borrowing a princely sum of Rs. 500 from his mother-in-law, he waited near the village pond the next morning.

Barely had he taken the blessings of Sri Muniyandi than there appeared the vision of a white horse before him. It whined; he heard - On the mark, Get Set, Go – but pleaded that he could not run fast. The horse nodded and started a mild gallop. Subba followed it from Vadukampatti village to Karaikudi, some three hours by current bus running standards. After approaching a building at Karaikudi, the vision disappeared. Subba went in and stuck a deal for lease of the first of the world famous Madurai Sri Muniyandi Vilas Hotels. And there was no turning back. Today, there are 850 Madurai Sri Muniyandi Vilas Hotels throughout India, one each in China and Dubai.

Strength of Jati Dharma

Within a year, Puducherry and Villupuram appeared on the Muniyandi Map, with Chennai, Cuddalore, Thiruvannamalai following suit. The mouth watering biryani was introduced the next year. The first buffet system in the world was started by the Madurai Sri Muniyandi Vilas Hotels.  Subba Naidu used to carry a tray with various non-vegetarian dishes in small plates to each of his diners and invite them to pick up what they preferred to eat. He would then go and bring the hot chosen dish and serve the diner.

Subba Naidu returned to his village to pay obeisance to Muniyandi. He then handpicked the families that needed his help and set for them similar eateries in various parts of Tamil Nadu. And so this jati discovered its dharma. Each beneficiary started funding others keen to run an eatery but without resources of logistical support. The Madurai Sri Muniyandi Vilas Naidu Sangam was born to support private enterprise of the jati. The dream of Subba Naidu is today a reality as perhaps the world’s largest chain of hotels owned by one jati – the Telugu Velama Naidus.

76 Years of Annadanam: A Tribute to Muniyandi


It was 76 years ago, on the third Friday of the Tamil month of Thai (third Friday of January), that Subba Naidu started the most memorable festival for Muniyandi – the Festival of Annadanam, known today as Annadana Puja for Muniyandi. It has never been interrupted. For two days, the people of the 53 villages congregate at Vadakampatti, the place of Muniyandi’s appearance, with their families, especially those who own hotels in His name throughout the country. And for 24 hours on these two days, there is Annadanam for all. Serpentine queues form outside the makeshift tents and as in the rajasuyayagna of Yudhistira, no one is turned back at any time of the day or night. People from all jatis, rich and poor alike, sit next to each other to eat the sumptuous Annadanam. There is no jumping of the queue. Enthusiastic men and women serve the diners on thalai vazhai ilai (plantain leaves), always asking each diner if they could serve a little more.

Third Friday, Thai Masam (mid-Jan to mid-Feb)

Women, men and children carry milk or tender coconut water on their heads to perform abhishekam to Muniyandi. The procession takes three hours to reach a destination barely half a kilometer from the heart of the village. The tharai, thambhattai, the famous music Sivamani picked up from such villages to splash on TV following Chennai Super Kings; roars in rhythmic glory. As boys of all ages dance in front of the procession, the village nadaswaram follows, with tavil in attendance. Some women get into “sami attam”, a stage of hysterical dance. But these are no ordinary village women, each is the wife of a crorepati, and would normally be reticent in their hometowns and cities. This is the first half of the two day ritual. After abhishekam and the mahadeeparadhana, they return to their ancestral homes that each family feels privileged to maintain in the village, to smell the native soil and be part of their own God’s festivities. This is followed by annadanam.

The Evening

In the evening, the rituals are exclusive to womenfolk. At front of each home, the women gather with coconut, beetle leaves, fruits and flowers, spread in a tray and placed on their heads with great reverence, to give thanks to their protector. The procession starts from the last house of the village and as it moves forward, people from the households join in. Village belles showcase their “Oyil Attams” in front of the procession. Fireworks light the sky as the procession proceeds to Sri Muniyandi/Sri Karuppannaswamy Mandir. A huge garland is carried with great devotion and offered to Sri Muniyandi.

As in every village festival, there is a music session in the evening, preceded by a small meeting. I had the honor to address the villagers in the last two years about how their jati dharma stands in protection of Sanatana Dharma. Subba Naidu’s great-grand children are called to the stage and honored to this day.

Vegetarian and Non-Vegetarian

Surprise. Sri Muniyandi, in whose name there are 850 non-vegetarian hotels throughout India, is considered a vegetarian and the prasad made for him is sweet pongal. Women with a vow to fulfill prepare sweet pongal for him. Muniyandi’s fellow-protector, Sri Karuppannaswamy, the co-grama devata, needs non-vegetarian fare.

So on the first day of the festivities, for Muniyandi, the entire villages become vegetarian. On the second day, for Sri Karuppannaswamy, the fare becomes totally non-veg.

People with wishes make a wish to Karuppannaswamy, who resides outside the Muniyandi premises. Each year, nearly 200 goats and 60 chickens are sacrificed by those whose vows have been fulfilled. That night you can see villagers from 53 villages sleeping outside the mandir premises, with gigantic queues forming to take the biryani prasad made from the sacrifice.

A Handful of Mud


The Velama Naidus belonging to these 53 villages have taken a handful of village mud and built Sri Karuppannaswamy Muniyandi Mandirs in their villages. But as this is the original village of Muniyandi, they make it a point to participate in the celebrations in the month of Thai, and celebrate festivals in their own villages in the months of March and April. In these villages, everyone is embraced as a relative, and it is common to be addressed as “Bava” (brother-in-Law), Mappillai (son-in-law), Chithappu (uncle) or Mama (maternal Uncle). It is most endearing.

Dr. Subramanian Swamy immediately agreed to attend a festival when he learnt about this cluster of villages centered at Vadakampatti. He drove 40 kms from Madurai and spent an hour in the village, interacting with the people. His parting remarks were: “If I am fighting for Sanatana Dharma in various court cases, here you are keeping our jati dharma alive at grassroot levels. You are the real upholders of our Dharma”.

1 M beat 4 M

Most significantly, in all these 53 villages, there is NOT a single church or a masjid anywhere in the vicinity. Not one cent of land is sold to practitioners of other faith; Muniyandi allows them to deal only with people of the faith. No Macaulay-putras, Marxists, Missionaries, Maulvis. ONLY Muniyandis. Marriages are necessarily within the jati dharma, and they willingly come forward to help their brethren who need help at the time of marriages or setting up new hotel ventures. There is no distinction between rich and poor within the jati marriages. The daughter of a not-so-affluent hotel owner will be welcomed into a rich and prosperous Muniyandi hotel owner’s home. The logic is – Mana Naidu Bava, Manamu Help Cheyaali –  we have to help our Naidu brothers.

A VVIP visitor

The villagers made an enormous request to me this year. Can a VVIP personally known to me come to their village and bless them? Will he offer vibhuti and kumkum prasad from His hands to the simple folk? I am visiting Him this month to place their request at His holy feet. I am confident he will say YES and be at Vadukampatti on the third Friday of 2012 to bless these wonderful Sanatana Dharmis who have proved that jati dharma is the way to keep them together and keep 4 M at bay.

The VVIP they yearn to have darshan of is Sri Sri Sri Jayendra Saraswati Shankaracharya Swamiji of Kanchi Kamakoti Peetham. He has in the past blessed many villages following my personal prayer to Him. I intend to seek His presence at Vadukampatti.

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(The author is a social activist)

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NeverMind
24/02/2011 04:08:44
To Joy
1."leaving one hindu god for another is not technically a conversion"
Hindus as per their own inner promptings may follow one/more of the *Hindu* Gods as their Ishtadevas (while not abandoning their Kuladevas).This isn't conversion,because they weren't influenced in their choice by others (or by untruth like christianism).

(Note: ISKCON still exerts the influence of *conversion* even among Hindus whose primary focus is already Vishnu/Krishna,such as Vaishnavas. In the larger Hindu context too,why should India's Hindus lose their traditional understanding of their Gods,incl. Krishna, to replace it with ISKCON's novel views on these Gods?)
Don't want to go on about ISKCON. It was an example of the sort of modern trends Hindus don't think about,even as some complain about the non-vegetarianism of Hindu communities who were never vegetarian (but were always traditionally Hindu).

And I REPEAT:the Gods don't *require* meat/any substance, let alone that animals suffer.
Non-veg is *already* part of these Hindus' diet. The Gods merely require that Hindus first offer to the Gods a little of what the Hindus live on, so that the Gods may sanctify all this for the benefit of the Hindus.

2."Most of the iskcon devotees are much better brahmanas than the current crop of caste brahmins or upper caste hindus"

Anyone not consciously Hindu--just a Hindu by the coincidence of birth--is hardly the standard to measure others against. So not surprising that ISKCON devotees,as also non-religious western people with good principles,compare very favourably against poor examples of Hindus. (Indeed, all good people of non-terrorist ideologies are comparable to good Hindus.) Nevertheless,no need for universal dismissals,as there still exist good Brahmanas of Brahmana parentage.

But you raise another matter: while ISKCON & other global Indian movements give out brahmana certificates to foreigners who join and follow their rules,*Hindus* aren't compelled to recognise this.
Cont. 5
NeverMind
24/02/2011 02:50:15
To Joy. Continued
As far as I know, the requirement for a Brahmana is 2-fold:
+ good character
+ AND the prescribed duty of a Brahmana: the Vedas. Both the knowing performance of the rituals and the preservation of it.

Purity of character was especially stressed in earlier times, since, as per the Mahabharatam, the Vedas (the 2nd requirement) permeated all Hindu society back then and thus was considered a given. The MB also makes it clear that birth doesn't define it. Hindus moreover know from their texts that their early Vedic Rishis were prepared to accept Hindus of unknown background based on their character alone, to become their shishyas and follow the path of a Brahmana. Later Acharyas--e.g. Ramanujacharya I think--also took in a lot of people of various Hindu communities and made them Brahmanas (and the Vedas are central to Shri Vaishnavam).
And there are those of Hindu ancestry who properly reverted to Hindu religion (which requires complete extrication from terrorist ideologies) who have become Brahmanas. E.g the ex-muslim Indian who returned to the religion of the Hindu Gods in the pages at http://www.malaparamba-narasimhamoorthy.org/conversion_muslim.htm

BUT none of this means *foreigners* can "become" brahmanas. Because, next to character, the Vedas also define a Brahmana. And the Veda is NOT for foreigners. It belongs to ethnic *Hindus* only. This is not a debatable point. And any Sincere western convert to the Hindu religion would never challenge this point. Because it does not concern them.
Traditional Hindus never made the Vedas available for aliens. (Westerners illegally pried it off Hindu society and "translated" it. And modern 'Hindus' sell it.)

There may be proper converts in the west but, by definition, there are no western brahmanas (or kshatriyas/etc). Self-proclaimed don't count. May be like how westerners who declare themselves Samurai on account of identifying with the Bushido Code still aren't recognised by Japanese as anything but dabblers. 5
Joy
18/02/2011 09:22:54
namaste Nemo...
To #1 ..I hundred percent agree with you on this. Their treatment of other hindu gods, advaita philosopy etc...and their tolerance for christ etc(I suspect this is to gain acceptance in the west). I abhor that too. Primarily, In my opinion leaving one hindu god for another is not technically a conversion. Anyway majority of the hindus who get into iskcon are never had any knowledge of our shastras to begin with and most were flesh eaters. The rest here in the west were of the semitic faiths. Most of the iskcon devotees are much better brahmanas than the current crop of caste brahmins or upper caste hindus. Very few traditional hindu with proper jnaana of the shaastras will agree with them and change. So I don't really see a loss here. It is much better than losing them to the semitic faiths etc. There was a hindu phd student here that I know of, who used to frequent the church until he came across iskcon.

#2..Killing some innocent living beings to please gods and get something in return is from the dark ages. It is barbaric and out of pure ignorance. If any org like the one mentioned above suceeds here it is always positive. I can't respect any manifestation of GOD that sanctifies the suffering of innocent living beings.

#3. Semitic religions have only compassion for those can be converted...period.

I completely agree wih you on your last point. It was nice exchanging ideas with you. dhanyavAdaH.
5
M.R.Kuttipuzha
18/02/2011 07:33:42
Don't destroy life.
Why make yourself burdened with nasty animal food when you can happily live with fruits and vegetables ?
For our survival,we need not eat rubbish animal flesh.I say 'rubbish' because it is full of urine and a deadly poison called Adrenaline.
Let us not kill living beings for our food.
Just another animal for survival...?
If you are not finding any guilt to kill another animal,you are also a wild beast.Please don't get annoyed with me if I say those who eat animals are cave men.It is nothing less than cannibalism.
....Because we are not designed by god to kill.We don't have any claws to catch our prey.We don't have fangs to cut the throat of our victim.If you have fangs and claws you can allow any animal suffer just for the pleasure of your taste bud.
Meat eating has nothing to do with religion.But it has a tremendous connection with our aesthetic understanding, our meditative habit.If we are sensitive and aesthetic enough,if we are more human,very heart oriented,yes,I am sure,we can't kill poor animals for our food.
Dear brother,it is very difficult for a non vegetarian compassionate..because they are living with a heavy consciousness.They are living with a life of insensitiveness.Red meat prevents their growth of consciousness.If you are a regular meat eater,you come under the law of necessity,soul is burdened with heaviness,earth will start pulling you down.When you are a regular vegetarian, you come under the law of grace and power,sky will start pulling you up.
Yes,animal food eaters have lost their heart,their soul,in fact they are not living,they are simply vegetating.
My prayer-Don't forget that the whole animal kingdom is part and parcel of us.Don't destroy life because life is GOD. 5
Nemo
18/02/2011 02:29:55
To Joy
1. Where did I say or even imply that Mahavishnu/Krishna is not a Hindu God of our Pantheon? He is a most beloved God of Hindus. He is certainly my Bhagavan.
But the charge you wrongly make against me--of not recognising the validity of various Hindu Gods--is *factually* to be levelled at the previously-mentioned movement.
And I never spoke of "revolt". I was describing only immunisation of Hindus: that they should follow their traditional, ancestral Hindu religion and remain entirely immune to modern movements which are now trying to proselytise among them. (No one seems to ask why these are trying to convert *Hindus*.)

2. You write "influence of some blind superstition" about the traditional Hindus following their ancestral religion and way of life (in their case: not vegetarian). One called it a cult, another calls it "blind superstition". It is neither. These Gods are not superstition (they are the ancient Gods of their village's region), nor are their sacrifices to be ignored: the Gods don't nourish themselves on it, they merely sanctify those foods which sustain the humans attached to them. Such traditions may perhaps one day become transformed, but not by people whose practice it isn't.

3. "The basic difference between the semitic religions and sanaatana dharma"
The difference is *much* more basic. The most fundamental difference--as ancient Hellenes also held--between christianism/islam on one hand, and Sanatana Dharma and the other legitimate traditions of the world on the other is LEGITIMACY: Hindu Gods (hence religion) are real, not invented. Christianism/islam invented a false "god" (hence religion).

Compassion is certainly a feature of real religions, since they're guided by the innate good that is the real Gods. (But compassion exists also in non-religious persons in the west, some of whom have *chosen* a life of vegetarianism because they too didn't wish to injure animals when other foods exist that can sustain human life.) 5
NeverMind
17/02/2011 03:12:16
To Joy. I wasn't being funny at all in giving an e.g. of real subversion vs how everday traditional Hindus were dubbed "cult"
Joy wrote:"last time I checked Krishna is in our pantheon of gods. So at a time when missionaries are making inroads into your neighbourhood, I do not find your call to revolt against ISKCON funny at all."

You're entirely mistaken. And grossly mis-representing me. Where in my previous comment did I deny that Hindus' Bhagavan Krishna is in the Hindu Pantheon?

Yet you don't accuse ISKCON of the very crime you wrongly attribute to me, when it's *demonstrably* ISKCON (read its founder's books) insisting all their followers denounce all other Hindu Gods. E.g. the ISKCON founder's "BG as it is" specifically tells people that all the other Hindu Gods are NOT to be worshipped. Then the founder further compounds his error by trying to pass it of as something Krishna stipulated. In total contrast, in reality incl. in the Gita itself and in other sacred Hindu texts, Krishna has always endorsed Hindus' attachment and worship of other Hindu Gods.

While it doesn't concern Hindus what ISKCON teaches to foreigners about Hindu Gods, it matters greatly when ISKCON is now trying to proselytise among traditional Hindus in India: most of whom worship all the Hindu Gods known to their ancestors. Yet ISKCON's proselytising among Hindus--and subverting their correct (traditional) view of the Hindu Gods--disturbs no one?
Why should Hindus not be immune to ISKCON? Besides, its founder said it wasn't Hindu, AND the foreign movement is now "curiously" proselytising among traditional Hindus in India. (Why would it do that?)

"Curious" too that their monotheistic movement falsely equates Krishna to the biblical god/allah, all while insisting that other Hindu Gods aren't equal to him and shouldn't even be worshipped.
It's a subversive movement. Surely people can see that.

Yet blind to all this (many are even unfamiliar with ISKCON books while endorsing the same), people pick on the non-vegetarian among traditional Hindus and declare their temple sacrifice of their food as "cult". 5
Joy
15/02/2011 15:06:54
To Sahya & Nevermind
namaste Sahya....Jati/caste is not the issue...casteism is the issue. Wherever you go in the world there will be equality and inequality..whatever name it is called by. I'm fairly sure that the CEO, Janitor/peon and you'll don't mingle around freely too. Caste is not a birthright..Please read the samskrita version of our scriptures. I personally was not born a brahmin but became a SriVaisnava brahmin to understand God thru Ramanuja philosophy.



Nevermind....No one is insisting anyone to convert to vegetarianism. The basic difference between the semitic religions and sanaatana dharma is the karuna it shows other living beings and attributing a soul to them. As for ISKCON, I agree there are questionable tactics and tenets, but on the whole they are advocating a simpler and compassionate lifestyle unlike the semitic religion..and the last time I checked Krishna is in our pantheon of gods. So at a time when missionaries are making inroads into your neighbourhood, I do not find your call to revolt against ISKCON funny at all.

All I was saying was I'm not overjoyed at the practice of killing so many innocent living beings under the influence of some blind superstition.

- dhanyavAdaH 5
NeverMind
15/02/2011 08:42:02
Geeta's wrong on Afghanistan being Buddhist when islam invaded
It's alternatively been claimed that Afghanistan was "largely Zoroastrian" (eg. Koenraad Elst), "largely Buddhist" (Indian 'history-writing') or even "largely Greek" (by the US).

Only the far-western parts of Afghanistan were actually Zoroastrian, as this is where India meets Iran. But Afghanistan at one time became a satrapi of Zoroastrian Persia. (Owing to which Greeks observed specifically *Hindu* soldiers fighting for Persia in Iran more than 3 centuries BCE.)

After Persia's losses to Greece, some parts of Afghanistan--particularly Bactria--had Greek influences and had for a period been ruled by a few Greeks and later culturally-Hellenised Afghan Indians.

As for Buddhism:
1.Buddhism had a period of "flowering" (and political prominence) in the distinguished localities of Afghanistan: Buddhist centres there grew due to royal Buddhist patronage. (The population remained largely Hindu.) Many Buddhist scultpures in the region were of this time. The copious historical remains of this nature, though showing Buddhism's presence in the region, can't be mistook for it having a pervasive following among the masses. The two are distinct, the way the disproportionate amounts of land in the hands of churches in India does not imply that the majority of the Indian population is christian (it is still Hindu).

2.The period of Buddhist flowering diminished well before islam's invasion of the region, even in regions that had concentrated and famous Buddhist centres like Gandhara did. E.g. Chinese Buddhist visitors before islam's arrival commented on this reversal of Buddhism's fortunes in the region.

3.Eventually, after Buddhism's slump, Hindu rulers returned. The region reverted to its Hindu character under their rule. (The population still remained Hindu, that part is unaffected.)

4.When islam invaded, Afghanistan was under an established dynasty of Hindu rulers. And it was a very significantly Hindu population that suffered islamic genocide and conversion. 5
NeverMind
15/02/2011 03:39:06
On Sahya's "not caste due to which India didnt get Islamised, but due to the advent of British who unseated the mughals"
Though the Brits occupied islam-usurped areas too, by that time these were merely rulers with token titles since mughal power was already waning:

When the christian Brits invaded, Hindus like Maharattas and Jats had already retrieved significant territory from those regions that had been occupied by islamic tyranny, and were determinedly expanding. The trend and aim was evident that Hindus were retaking their country. Sikhs had also done the same in the part of the country they were active in.

Into this positive trend, the christian colonials entered. As is well-documented, throughout their stay, the christian Brits--down to the eve of their finally getting lost--regularly encouraged islamic butchery of Hindus. They never "prevented India from islamisation": the christians gave islam a free hand to satiate its recurrent bloodlust. Just like the US sponsors Pak and the current christian govt works in tandem with the jihad.
And like them, the christian Brits used the muslims--who give christianism leverage, as they always formed a far larger mob than the christian presence in India--to destabilise Hindu resurgence.

The christian Brits (again, for the purpose of denying the Hindu nation self-rule) social-engineered sections of Hindu society against itself with the SAME TYPE OF (documented!) missionary delusions that their Belgian counterparts had insinuated into the minds of Rwandans (see faculty.vassar.edu/tilongma/Church&Genocide.html). By programming these Hindus to act against their own interests, the christian Brits mobilised these self-alienated individuals into turning on their own Hindu society. These too were but used as leverage to keep the alien christian tyranny in power and prevent the indigenous Hindu nation from reasserting itself.

The current christian govt is SYSTEMATICALLY REPEATING the same: actively encouraging jihad against the Hindu population while inquisitioning Hindus in their own land with christian fictions like "Hindu terror". 5
Krishna
14/02/2011 23:10:59
It is a beautiful garden of cultures
Nice article. Thank you for sharing these interesting facts about another part of our country.

It is not the jati which is the problem, but attaching grades to jati and discrimination based on jati. It is a simple psychology of humans to form groups based on common factors. Many times those groups produce progressive results. For example in Kerala, if few tamilians live together in a locality they form a group which helps them to keep in touch with their language, rituals, festivals and other cultural specialities. It also helps others to understand and appreciate the diversity of our society. But if they artificially try to deny their Tamil identity and try to emulate others, they will only be indirectly causing the extinction of their culture. So let us learn to appreciate and respect each flower in this garden of cultures. Only Abrahamic religions and alien ideologies like Communism played the role of weeds in this beautiful garden.

Regarding vegetarianism, it may have many good things about it. But we don't have any right to undermine non-vegetarianism. As more and more analysis coming out on why India is unable to defend itself against foreign slavery etc. It was mainly due to the loss of our 'Kshaatra Veeryam' owing to the over insistence of vegetarianism. The thing is that, once a person grows above the lower instincts of his sensory organs, he automatically becomes indifferent towards all attractions including taste. There is no point in insisting. 5
Geeta
14/02/2011 05:51:14
Hinduism and cast.
It is not factual to tell that all or even majority of conversions are from lower castes. But the fact is contrary. Majority of Kerala Monirities are from upper castes. Malappuram and Kottayam are the districts where minority are majority. And in both these places the remaining Hindus are from the lower castes. The percentage of upper cast Hindus are almost nil especially in Malappuram. How it happened? Even the erstwhile Kotttayam King family is converted to xianity.

It was lower caste and hindus born in lower castes who saved Hinduism at different junctures of history starting with Vyasya and upto Narayanaguru and Ayyankali. I myself consider it a dishonor when you tell its is lower caste people who are getting converted. I myself born like that but I am proud because feet is as important as head in a body.

Gita tells 'Chaturvarnam Maya srushtam guna karma.....' The caste system is created by Me as per guna and karma. It corrupted when caste was based on birth instead of Guna and karma.

I feel really ashamed of Dalit xians not of Sudras. If there are dalit and non-dalit xians, what meaning is there in convesrion according to Sri Sahya ?

Let us not flow along the river. Let us analyse things after removing many superstitions of the educated like real cause for conversion etc. 5
sahya
14/02/2011 03:19:59
Caste the biigest disease of Hinduism
"Jati (caste) is not that 'bad' as some readers comment elsewhere".

Its not as bad , what most worse for Hinduism. It was not caste due to which India didnt get Islamised, but due to the advent of British who unseated the Mughals.
Caste is the biggest cause for in equality in the hindu society. Be what ever be interpretation for varnashram its not some thing one chooses ,but imposed on ones birth.

Look at the History of kerala. we have 25% muslims and 19% christians who are none other than the non - upper castes who adopted them just for a better stature in society (In fact the upper castes treated co relegionsist better than low castes out of fear). Then in 1940s and 50s Communism gained favouracy over Abrahamic faith as it provided a path to power through representation for OBCs and Dalits.

Now growing popularity of DHRM which is based on neo-buddhist platform mirrors the contempt for Manuvian legacy.
Hinduism should refine on the lines of Buddhist Chaarvaka darshan to eliminate caste system. The best option that can be suggested is to stop endogamy
Now a days , what is the biggest recruitment posture for Evangeists, Islamists & Maoists??
None can be convinced to stay at the bottom of social hierarchy 5
GEETA
13/02/2011 15:30:09
Hinduism And Hindus
1. Vegeterianism and Violence do have a connection which cannot be whitewashed by taking isolated cases of Sri Hitler.

2. Vegeterianism is one of the best religious practices that Hinduism (Budhism) has produced.

3.Non-vegeterian food and animal sacrifice were but a part of Hinduism over the ages and this will remain so in future. We want Kshathriyas to save our society which will require us to destroy (kill) our enimies.

4.A society cannot survive if all its members were Bramhins. The same is true with respect to Kshathrias, Vysya and Sudras also.
( Or in modern terms suppose all mebers of a society are engineers it cannot survive without technicians,helpers etc.)

5. Jati (caste) is not that 'bad' as some readers comment elsewhere.There are brilliant essays by Swami Vivekanad and Sri Arabindo in this regard. Castes were more successful in stoping conversion than Budhism. History tells that it was Afganisthan (with no-caste Budhism) which fell completely to Muslim barberians but North India survived due to Jati like Vadakkumpatti Muniyadi.

6. Hinduism is so fine but complex let us donot define (de-fine) it. Like a human body so mavelous but complex.

7. Thanks for the original writer.
Let these 'Cults' and 'Jatis' prosper in this world of Jihadis and Missionaries. 5
NeverMind
12/02/2011 20:27:52
Part I: not all traditional Hindus are vegetarian and so the Gods wish to bless all their foods
Not all Hindus are vegetarian. And for some Gods/temples, it is prescribed ritual to offer meat. If those Hindus who aren't vegetarian anyway eat the sacrificed animal as prasadam, then it's not going to waste. Humans evolved to be omnivores. Over time, some people have consciously chosen to become vegetarians.

Stop militantly insisting that everyone "convert" to vegetarianism--many people (throughout history including in ancient Greece and Rome) in time consciously choose *for themselves* to become vegetarian of their own accord, not because of other people insisting on it. And stop labelling anything that doesn't pigeon-hole into your narrow definition of what constitutes the religion of "Hindu Dharma" as a "barbaric cult" and speaking ill of genuine Hindu Gods who look after the people of their villages. These are legitimate Gods and legitimate Hindus. Even a few Vedic rites originally involved animal sacrifice--granted not much, but it was practised. In time the Hindu practitioners themselves consciously transformed it. Outsiders cannot.
The same applies here: if this is not your practise, you may not transform it.

I am a conscious vegetarian. But I also know to respect other Hindus for what is their way of life: they are not destroying animals at random, they eat animals since it is a source of food for them. So their village Gods wish to sanctify all those things that their devotees eat in daily life. Therefore if a non-vegetarian Hindu village sacrifices their everyday food to their Gods, it is accepted. In this case Sri Muniyandi Swamy sanctifies the vegetarian part of the Hindu villagers' diet, while the other Grama devata Sri Karuppannaswamy sanctifies the non-vegetarian part of the Hindu villagers' diet. Clearly, the Gods understand that not everyone on the planet is a vegetarian. There are sufficient traditional stories of hunter Hindus sacrificing their only food to Shiva who accepted it. 5
NeverMind
12/02/2011 20:27:52
Part I: not all traditional Hindus are vegetarian and so the Gods wish to bless all their foods
Not all Hindus are vegetarian. And for some Gods/temples, it is prescribed ritual to offer meat. If those Hindus who aren't vegetarian anyway eat the sacrificed animal as prasadam, then it's not going to waste. Humans evolved to be omnivores. Over time, some people have consciously chosen to become vegetarians.

Stop militantly insisting that everyone "convert" to vegetarianism--many people (throughout history including in ancient Greece and Rome) in time consciously choose *for themselves* to become vegetarian of their own accord, not because of other people insisting on it. And stop labelling anything that doesn't pigeon-hole into your narrow definition of what constitutes the religion of "Hindu Dharma" as a "barbaric cult" and speaking ill of genuine Hindu Gods who look after the people of their villages. These are legitimate Gods and legitimate Hindus. Even a few Vedic rites originally involved animal sacrifice--granted not much, but it was practised. In time the Hindu practitioners themselves consciously transformed it. Outsiders cannot.
The same applies here: if this is not your practise, you may not transform it.

I am a conscious vegetarian. But I also know to respect other Hindus for what is their way of life: they are not destroying animals at random, they eat animals since it is a source of food for them. So their village Gods wish to sanctify all those things that their devotees eat in daily life. Therefore if a non-vegetarian Hindu village sacrifices their everyday food to their Gods, it is accepted. In this case Sri Muniyandi Swamy sanctifies the vegetarian part of the Hindu villagers' diet, while the other Grama devata Sri Karuppannaswamy sanctifies the non-vegetarian part of the Hindu villagers' diet. Clearly, the Gods understand that not everyone on the planet is a vegetarian. There are sufficient traditional stories of hunter Hindus sacrificing their only food to Shiva who accepted it. 5
NeverMind
12/02/2011 19:53:12
Part II: No voices raised against actual subversive (and untraditional) cults
As for insinuations of "cult", why don't people here have a problem with that famous jetsetting Indian cult--which declared itself specifically not Hindu (it's fortunately too late for them to claim otherwise)--that is now busy missionising in India to convert *Hindus*--trying to make converts even among traditional Vaishnava Hindus, like the Madhvas (who understandably don't like it, see http://www.dvaita.org/shaastra/critics.shtml).

That same jetsetting cult also declares (very subversively!) that Krishna is to be equated with allah and the god of the christian bible, and yet its founder and his books go out of their way to insist that no other Hindu Gods are to be worshipped except this manufactured Krishna of theirs (in direct contradiction to what the real Krishna says in genuine Hindu texts). Sounds very monotheistically christian in its claims and demands. Next to subverting genuine Hindu texts, it also badmouths Advaitam (which is as genuine a Hindu marga as Dvaitam) whenever it can. Curiously, for missionising in India, it has decided to at first use Hindus' attachments to other Gods as well as Adaitam to sell itself: its stores in India *illegally* pirates and sells music, books and digital materials produced by other authentic Hindu companies. Once the cult has established itself in India, it will no doubt repeat its founder's insistence that people follow their one god only who is to be equated with the god of the koran/bible.

Yet no modern Hindus raise their voice against this actual cult. Probably because it now has so much publicity and so many foreign followers which people mistake for authority (a foreign following is a feature that today's Hindus are always flattered by, even though traditional Hindus did not blindly allow conversion of foreigners, as the Hindu tradition is not a proselytising religion like certain other Indian religions are). 5
Ganesh
12/02/2011 18:43:02
non violence
@Pradeep.You have quoted some stories from the vedas.More than that, Nature itself is an open book to know what God almighty intended.Show me one herbivorous animal that is violent.Even a massive elephant obeys a measly human being.Also show me one carnivorous animal that is non violent and trustworthy.Blindly following what appears in our mythology is more of an islamic act.Hindu philosophy never compels anyone to imitate what our Godmen did but compels us to draw our own wisdom from it.That is where Hindu is different from the desert religions. 5
Pradeep
12/02/2011 03:30:52
Pranams to lord muniyandi
My hearty congratulations to Naidus and I bow before Lord Muniyandi for resisting invasion by imperiaist Christian and Muslim groups.

Now for those who oppose animal sacrifice let me add one thing.

Please do not confuse Hindusim with vegetarianism. Even non violence is different from vegetarianism.
Swamy Vivekananada, one of the greatest Hindus of 21 st century was a non vegetarian. There are many temples in South India where non veg dishes are served.

There is the story of Sage Agasthya eating the devil Illvala (brother of Vatapi) who turned a goat. Vatapi used to kill the goat every time a sage came to his house, served the meat and recited Mritasanjivani Mantra to bring Illvala back to life breaking open the stomach of the sage and killing him.Obviously sages ate meat.

Adolf Hitler was considered a vegetarian and how much atrocity he committed. Obviously vegetarianism has nothing to do with non violence. 5
Joy
11/02/2011 12:37:26
Why killing innocent animals..
What is the need for sacrificing goats and chicken...and eating flesh. Good article...but I cannot pray for the success of this. This is just a little bit better than the semitic barbarians.. 5
k.v.raghavan
11/02/2011 00:03:09
amazing
Amazing, really, sir, to know the facts behind Muniyandi group of hotels.

Their faith - something, even, so called elite brahmins and other upper caste Hindus are not maintaining, I mean allowing christians to preach among them.

Hindu Dharma is beacon to the world might be because of such kind of sanadhanis.

Good work by you in bringing about such facts. 5
Ganesh
10/02/2011 20:27:17
no better
If there is animal slaughter for pleasing God,then I cannot presume this as a peaceful cult.Let us not encourage sins in the name of GOd.Hindu religion departed from these barbaric practices long before the advent of the desert faiths. THis is what makes Hinduism stand apart from the desert faiths.If some cults still do it,they must be shown the right path.I stopped reading this piece beyond the slaughtering para. 5
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